7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental Map7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental Maphttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_thread?p_l_id=119785333&threadId=1125157582024-03-29T14:47:27Z2024-03-29T14:47:27ZRE: 7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental MaJuan Antónhttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=119785333&messageId=1125591432021-06-15T14:26:41Z2019-03-04T12:53:12ZHello Lee, thanks for your feedback,<br /><br />this change is part of a process of visual unification of the toppers of all the components that can be used in the construction of pages with the new "modern Site Building" model. The complexity of the interface in this case is much greater than that we have in the widget pages environment. In a Standard Page or in a Display Page, we can get to have several sections, components, editable elements and even widgets coexisting. <br /><br />Something that we have always present in the development of this tool is to avoid excess of visual information that ends up becoming noise for the user. The toppers, as we had them until now, acquired a lot of visual presence and excessive prominence when moving around the page doing hover in the different components. This mixed with other types of visual feedback and access to other editing options may be too much visual impunts happening at the same time. This is the reason we have decide to move to a more discreet topper.<br /><br />We understand that there’s a change in the location of access to the configuration, and at first it can confuse the user who is used to having access to the right, but it hasn’t been a capricious change, we consider that having always in mind the global experience that We want to offer in this new approach to page building in which we’re working now, this is a better solution.<br /><br />On the other hand, we still are refining this. There are many new scenarios to keep in mind when making this decision. It’s something in which we’re still working.Juan Antón2019-03-04T12:53:12ZRE: 7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental MaLee Jordanhttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=119785333&messageId=1125261452019-02-28T23:09:20Z2019-02-28T23:09:20ZThe change itself hasn't be explained, like why make these elipsis menus appear in inconsitent distances from the left of the container? ... What is the benefit in doing that and what was the difficulty being faced by users who have had ellipsis menus positioned top right for 3 years?<br /><br />There is also an issue with trying to undo what liferay does do via a custom theme ... often particulary on laptops where the user is doing a lot of work, slowness in rendering can cause flashing.Lee Jordan2019-02-28T23:09:20ZRE: 7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental MaLee Jordanhttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=119785333&messageId=1125249882019-02-28T22:38:59Z2019-02-28T22:38:59ZIt's an intentional change done 4wks ago that looks like a bug, this is a good time frame to keep users in mind as this one goes through. Just superfical surface stuff being seen so far. Users will see and will comment on this change, this change would impact site admins who are our most vocal users at giving feedback. It would interrupt their workflow mentally, cognitive usability can be a big deal when trying to get stuff done quickly having already learned interaction patterns.<br /><br />I can understand why the change was made, I just voice concern for users because this is not only a different location to go to, it does look visually messy.<br />https://github.com/brianchandotcom/liferay-portal/pull/67478<br /><br /><br />On top of the frustration at navigation now I don't think users want another jarring change. Not to mention it makes clicking the portlet title eaiser to do by mistake.<br /><br />Added a bug report, because there is inconsistency where desktop looks broken, mobile looks correct.<br />https://issues.liferay.com/browse/LPS-91412Lee Jordan2019-02-28T22:38:59ZRE: 7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental MaDavid H Nebingerhttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=119785333&messageId=1125163402019-02-28T15:20:49Z2019-02-28T15:20:49ZJust my honest opinion - this is not a big deal.<br /><br />Users, in the classic sense, will never ever see the toppers. It is just for administrators.<br /><br />Now, like I said, just my opinion. I know there will be edge cases where this is really an inconvenience, but in that case I'm wondering if this is not perhaps just a theme issue? I mean, if you have a custom theme I think you can control the topper and size as you'd like...David H Nebinger2019-02-28T15:20:49Z7.2 A1 - Portlet Topper Width Now Inconsistent Breaking Users Mental MapLee Jordanhttps://liferay.dev/en/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=119785333&messageId=1125157572019-02-28T15:13:39Z2019-02-28T15:13:39ZAnother UX issue with making big UI changes. 7.0 and 7.1 and 7.2 M2 have historically had full width portlet toppers. Thus accessing menus users would click to the top right of the portlet. This position has now changed and is inconsistent from portlet to portlet. This poses an increased challenge to users with competen